“What do you think of taking progesterone, if you have cancer?”

Sari Grove
“I think it’s a load of crap…

Progesterone is what birth control drugs are made of & they cause cancer…

I have had many people come to me for imaging who went on progesterone cream for various reasons & now have either benign or malignant tumours…

Dr. Lee sold progesterone which is a massive conflict of interest for a doctor & he is really the main proponent of this most dangerous recommendation…

Tumours both benign or malignant are made of progesterone so I think it is sheer insanity to add progesterone to the mix…

Dr. Lee attempts to sell this idea that progesterone lowers estrogen which is nuts…

Most doctors will not give any hormone replacement therapy to women who have had cancer & certainly not to someone with active cancer…

I think it is just crap being sold because progesterone brings in profits…

The trickle down to these facebook groups is based on misinformation & bad advice…

Most people KNOW not to use progesterone if they have cancer…It is just so ridiculous that I even have to state this at all…”

This article shows one women’s charts after taking a minimum dose of progesterone cream for about 7 months…About every 2 weeks at most…Her progesterone levels increased, her estrogen levels increased, & her testosterone levels increased…The notion that progesterone lowers estrogen is a MYTH!!!!

MORE:http://www.zimmernutrition.com/learning-center/health-articles/article/progesterone-cream-dangers

What is more likely, if ANYBODY actually checked their levels, (like this doctor did for one woman taking a minimal amount of progesterone cream), is that progesterone metabolizes into ESTROGEN…

(quite the opposite from what all these doctors who sell progesterone creams state)…

this one woman did a minimal amount of progesterone cream, & her estrogen levels increased exponentially too…

Forget about all this theory-if you really want to know how your progesterone cream is affecting your estrogen levels, get tested!
This will save you a lifetime of despair when you find out that the whole opposition theory is just plain wrong…

More:Progesterone metabolizes into estrogen…Which is opposite to this current falsehood that progesterone lowers estrogen…Progesterone acts like Calcium in the body , which is the main building block of all tumours, malignant or benign…

Why?
“Progesterone can be converted into 17-hydroxyprogesterone which can be converted into Androstenedione which is either converted into testosterone or the estrogens”…

Progesterone can be converted into 17-hydroxyprogesterone which can be converted into Androstenedione which is either converted into testosterone or the estrogens

https://books.google.ca/books?id=M4kEdSnS-pkC&pg=PA28&lpg=PA28&dq=Progesterone+can+be+converted+into+17-hydroxyprogesterone+which+can+be+converted+into+Androstenedione+which+is+either+converted+into+testosterone+or+the+estrogens&source=bl&ots=qssEdhO69Y&sig=8yddPwYA9i6I_2cDU0p_KYgsy-I&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmltOzvqfSAhUh1oMKHQUVDBQQ6AEIRTAI#v=onepage&q=Progesterone%20can%20be%20converted%20into%2017-hydroxyprogesterone%20which%20can%20be%20converted%20into%20Androstenedione%20which%20is%20either%20converted%20into%20testosterone%20or%20the%20estrogens&f=false

“Pregnenalone is the precursor (building-block) for all other steroid hormones. It is converted directly into DHEA and/or progesterone. DHEA converts to testosterone and estrogens. Additionally, progesterone converts to estrogens, cortisol, and aldosterone.” https://womeninbalance.org/about-hormone-imbalance/hormones-101/

Progesterone acts like Calcium in the body…It is a precursor to Phosphorus(what they call estrogen)…

Notice that cancer risk is much higher with the progesterone estrogen HRT than just the estrogen HRT by itself…Notice that synthetic & bioidenticals still cause problems, no matter which…If for any reason someone has told you to take progesterone & you have cancer, then ignore them…The studies on the net pushing progesterone are posted by people who make & sell the stuff…Progesterone raises estrogen & testosterone(& cortisol) as it breaks down in the body…The notion that progesterone lowers estrogen is pure mythology…Progesterone is NOT a detox thing…Excess progesterone is the cause of most tumour formation…Iodines, by the way, are opposed by progesterone…http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/factors/hrt

Excerpt from linked article…

“Combination HRT increases breast cancer risk by about 75%, even when used for only a short time. Combination HRT also increases the likelihood that the cancer may be found at a more advanced stage, as well as increasing the risk that a woman diagnosed with breast cancer will die from the disease. Breast cancer risk increases the most during the first 2 to 3 years of taking combination HRT. Higher-dose combination HRT increases breast cancer risk more than lower-dose combination HRT. Breast cancer risk goes back down to average about 2 years after you stop taking combination HRT.

Estrogen-only HRT increases the risk of breast cancer, but only when used for more than 10 years. Estrogen-only HRT also can increase the risk of ovarian cancer.

The higher breast cancer risk from using HRT is the same for so-called “bioidentical” and “natural” hormones as it is for synthetic hormones. “Bioidentical” means the hormones in the product are identical to the hormones your body produces. Bioidentical hormones are said to be “natural” — derived from plants. Synthetic hormones are made in a lab and are also chemically identical to the hormones in your body. It’s important to know that many herbal and bioidentical HRT products fall outside the jurisdiction of the United States Food and Drug Administration and so aren’t subject to the same regulations and testing that medications are.”

It’s like grass fed beef…It’s still meat…Bioidenticals have been shown to do pretty much the same thing…Cause breast cancer…When I checked the sources for the Dr V article, the truth about cancer comes up-so I went to their page & read the comments…Women who have taken biodenticals wrote in to say they got breast cancer too…I get women writing to me for imaging, who have been on bioidenticals, creams, & they have new lumps & new cancer diagnoses…I don’t think any of this so called “new” research” is based on any intellectual drive, but more so from the desire to sell this stuff…Dr. Lee who was the only proponent of all this, happily sold his own creams…That kind of bias is very dangerous…I made my mother eat yams…After one serving, she noticed immediate improvement in the “downstairs” department…Start with food…I think the biggest fraud that Dr Lee invented was the notion that progesterone lowers estrogen…You think if progesterone lowered estrogen the oncologists would be prescribing it daily…But they are not…Progesterone converts in the body to testosterone or estradiol or androgen…It doesn’t detox anything at all…http://www.breastcancer.org/risk/factors/hrt

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***Someone named J. Carpenter wrote a brilliant review of a book(Breaking The Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One, by Dr. Joe Dispenza), which included the following excerpt:" the Wright Brothers were bicycle repairmen who were also printers and that they never took a single university-level (or any formal) course on aerodynamics; Hedy Lamarr was an Austrian actress, who with George Anthiel, a composer, developed a "Secret Communications System" to help combat the Nazis in World War II. Michael Faraday, a man who with no formal education worked in a bookshop and yet revolutionized our understanding of electricity; William Herschel was a German musician who discovered Uranus and several moons with a home-made telescope ridiculed by scientists; Donald G. Harden was a high-school teacher, not a cryptologist or criminologist, who cracked the code of the Zodiac Killer--an unknown murderer who terrorized the San Francisco area in the 70's, attacking couples in secluded areas, and George Mendel was an uneducated monk who discovered how genetics work." I add this excerpt, to remind people that yes indeed, artists can innovate in medicine...& so on... Joseph & Sari Grove are a married Canadian couple who also happen to work together...They are both artists who have focussed their attention on innovating in Medicine...Their 9 book series is called Grove Health Science, & it is based on an idea called The Grove Body Part Chart...The Chart simplifies the body into 12 body parts, & identifies the 2 elements in each part that live together, detoxifying or repairing...This groundbreaking theory serves as the basis for unravelling the tangled web that medicine & pharmaceuticals & nutraceuticals have become, into a single comprehensible thread...The books build one upon the other, leading up to the 9th book, DIY Cancer Repair Manual, which serves DIYselfers & practitioners alike...Highlights include DIY diagnostic imaging at home to look for malignancies, tumour size & biochemistry-all just with a camera & a computer & an internet connection...ps.Thursday March 23rd, 2017:There are now 11 (ELEVEN) books! p.p.s.We request equal rep by pop by gender (1:1 ratio female:male)in all sports stadiums in Canada, as apology for the pole comment made to Dianne Watts MP!

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